Amy Milne: Renee Dugan, thank you for doing this interview for the Quilters'
S.O.S. - Save Our Stories project, which is a project of the Quilt Alliance and it is February 18th. It is Tuesday, February 18th, 2014 and we are here at the--and I'm going to have to have help, the Rutherford--Unknown Speaker: Piedmont Piecers--
AM: Piedmont Piecers at the Cleveland Park Pavilion Park Events Center and
Pavilion. Great. In Spartanburg, South Carolina. And Renee, thank you for doing this and thank you for bringing this gorgeous quilt. And so that's the very first thing I want to hear about is: tell me about this quilt.RD: This quilt, a friend of mine from Iowa came up to visit who is a quilter and
you know how you always bring a gift for somebody? She brought me the pattern for this quilt and she had picked it up at a quilt shop, I believe in Illinois, she told me, somewhere, and so while she was here we went on our own little shop hop. And then I took her up to Mary Jo's in Gastonia and we picked out the fabric for it and the main, the main fabrics. And then I just used out of my stash the stuff for the stars or flowers, however you want to want to look at it. But um, that's basically how I got this and she gave it to me.AM: So is it your, I mean you're using it now, is that what it just kind of?
RD: No, I mean it's my quilt and it just kind of hangs on one of my umpteen
quilt racks at home.AM: So it was, was it your very first, first quilt?
AM: Not the very first one I made, noooo, that one is hidden.
AM: Why is it hidden?
AM: Well, um, if you look at the back of it and if you look at the quilting,
it's kind of something to be desired. I did it on my small little machine and the back's got all kinds of little wrinkles in it and that type of thing. And I mean it's just basic rail fence. It was just something very simple. That was the first one I took at an actual class. I took basic quilting 101 and that was what I made in that one. But as far as the actual first one I made, I transition into that? Or...AM: Sure. I'm curious, the reason I asked if it was like, why did you choose to
bring this and what's special about it to you?RD: I like Edyta Sitar, I guess how you pronounce her name. I like her patterns.
They have a lot of applique and I love handwork and the colors in her quilts that she makes just catch my eye all the time. I love those colors. And so when I was kinda just going through some of the ones I had at home, I don't know, I just decided this one was probably one of the more colorful ones and more, more indicative of the handwork that I like to do.New Speaker: Had you been doing that type of applique?
New Speaker: I've done a lot of applique. Yeah. Yeah. I usually do hand applique
versus machine applique.New Speaker: Um, so sure. Tell us about your first quilt--that you didn't bring?
New Speaker: Well I didn't know I supposed to bring my first one! It said to
bring a quilt.AM: I'm just teasing.
New Speaker: I have always been or had always been a garment sewer. I had never
made quilts and a girlfriend of mine's daughter was getting married up in Montana and we went up there for the wedding and I walked into a store in Polson, Montana and I saw one of those rag quilts and I picked it up and I looked at it and I thought I could do this. There's no reason why I can't do this. And my daughter happened to be pregnant at the time, so I thought it would be a good one. So I went home and made a rag quilt and Tyler still has his rag quilt and I ended up making the bumpers for his crib and the crib skirt and the window seat and the window coverings [laughs], everything was a take off on his rag quilt. That was his baby quilt. And so that's, so I was older in age when I started quilting. I didn't start it as a young, a young one, like some of them in our group.AM: But you were a sewer and you said-- so tell us about your history with sewing.
AM: Oh Gosh. That goes back to when, um, my aunt had a treadle machine and we
learned to sew on her treadle machine and I can remember making that pedal go up and down and she'd say, slow down, slow down. And so you'd have to slow down. But, um, I'm the oldest of six girls and so you just sew, you know, I mean, mom made all of our clothes and my aunt made a lot of them and I just, you know, took it up. And by the time I was sixth grade, whatever, I was making my own clothes. I made my bridesmaid's dresses when I got married and mom, my daughter's prom dresses and you know, sewed for the kids until they said, no, I'm not wearing that. I'm not wearing something you made, mom. So, and now I, sew for my grandkids, so...AM: So you made the garment that you're wearing--
AM: My jacket--
AM: And when did you make the transition between making clothes that were just
the pattern and the fabric to actually sort of making, you know, making more of a piece of art?AM: We had, um, I want to say Jane Parker? Lynn Parker, Lynn Parker put on a
class at one of the local quilt stores and she had us making out of a sweatshirt, we made jackets, you know, made it patchwork looking. And then, um, we had another gal come--help me out. Um, Derelek [?],Joan Derelek [?] came to one of our quilt guild meetings and then she did a program for us and she measured everybody and we made our own individual patterns to fit whatever your shape was. So after I had my pattern, then I just kind of made a few jackets and used my main pattern and from that. But you know, just from started from a class that I went to.AM: And are you still doing that kind of work, doing quilted garments?
AM: Um, occasionally, you know, more for the grandkids. Then myself I guess.
AM: And do you treat the quilted garments as this--in the same way that you
would a quilt as far as how you approach it, to the surface design and so forth?AM: My garments are more scrappy than a lot of my quilts that are more pattern,
that type of a thing. So probably not in that sense. You know, I just kind of get an idea in my head and just start sewing it together, you know, a color scheme, start with a color scheme and then go from there.AM: So, and you've got embellishment and because this is a sound interview, you
can't see what we're pointing to, but there's a lot of embellishment with ribbon and yarn on top, like couched. Is that something you would do in a quilt too? Or do you feel like you have a different approach?AM: Yeah, I've never done couching or anything on a quilt, never tried that. Um,
I just have a lot of, I'm always looking for different types of yarn and different types of ribbons, things. I have a whole drawer of that kind of stuff. And so I just pull out what I think will work and start sewing it down. So...New Speaker: And are, is this a quilt for cover or for the wall?
New Speaker: It's not hanging on a wall. I don't have enough wall space.
New Speaker: So you use it as quilt at home for the bed?
RD: Yeah. I mean I just kind of, I have numerous quilt racks that I just kind of
put them on and every once in a while I just kind of rotate one on the back of the sofa.AM: Are most of your quilts made for cover? For use?
RD: Yes. They can all be used. I don't think I have any that are "don't touch,
don't touch, don't sit on that one" or you know, "get your drinks away from that". They can all be washed. It can all be washed.RD: When you give your quilts as a gift to family and friends, do you make that,
do you tell them that like this is to use or does it matter to you? What happens to it after you and it doesn't really matter?New Speaker: The ones that I have given to my family and stuff, they use them.
They, you know, I don't know if they just pull them out when I come or, or actually use them, but you know, I see them when I go.New Speaker: So, um, describe your sewing space where you make your quilts.
New Speaker: Well that's a whole 'nother subject. Um, we recently moved to this
house and um, I took over the bonus room upstairs and had it pretty much built to what I wanted as far as storage. And I have one wall that has 12 built-in cabinets with doors on them that I've labeled for all my different colors and got a project one and you know, future projects. And then I have on the other wall, just a regular, flat, I don't--cabinets with a counter top on them that I have stuff stashed underneath and I've got a bunch of drawers in there that I have totally all filled up. And, um, I have a corner with my bookcases, and a desk with my computer and a reclining chair that I can use for looking at books and that type of thing. And in another corner I have my sewing machine with my little cutting board here and my ironing board on the other side so I don't have to move too far and I also have a big cutting table if I need to get up. And then I have um, a long arm that's in the middle of the room. That's kind of my space.New Speaker: Do you work on the--excuse me--the, on the computer at all? For
design purposes?RD: You know, I have EQ6 and um, I could probably turn it on and pull it up, but
I don't do any more than that with it. I've never really taken the time to play with that. No. I just, I'm usually looking up something on the internet or you know that, but I don't use it for designing anything.New Speaker: Do you prefer to work with someone else's design or your own
original designs?RD: I'm usually using somebody else's designs just mainly for economy of time. I
don't... I recently retired, but I've got so many projects that I'm trying to catch up on right now that I'm just trying to finish those. Or if I go to, say Quilters of South Carolina and take a class with somebody, there's that project that I've got, you know, their, their um, quilt that they did that we're doing or I've been to Knoxville AQS there and I've got a couple of projects left from that. I've been to Pigeon Forge, to Mountain Quilt Fest that I've got a couple left. I mean, any use for that. So, and I just hate unfinished projects. Just...AM: So what's the most frustrating quilt project you've ever worked on?
RD: The most frustrating one? Um, probably what some of the paper piecing ones
that have got umpteen million pieces and you know, they say, oh, well, all these little points'll match up just right. And you're like, "yeah, right". You know, one block may, but then the next two don't seem to. So that's probably one of the more frustrating project-type things that I've done.New Speaker: Which project so far has been the one you're the most proud of?
RD: Well, boy, um, I don't know. I've had quite a few projects. Um, I did a, one
of my nieces got married and I did one for her that I had people, you know, write on little blocks that I ended up putting together for her. That was pretty unique in the sense that, you know, it wasn't a typical type quilt. And, um, I've done a few of those Bonnie Hunter ones that have a million pieces in them. That's probably been my latest projects. So, but I don't know that I have a particular one that, that I can say, you know, it was when I really...New Speaker: Did your mother or grandmother or anybody else in your family quilt?
RD: Not that I can remember. I remember my grandmother crocheting, she crocheted
and my great grandmother crocheted. And I have aunts that knitted and crocheted, but nobody--you know, and did sewing, but not quilting that I can remember. You know, my grandmother had down comforters that she had made, but they were just plain white. I don't know what kind of fabric they used, whatever, but full of, you know, feathers that she'd gotten off the ducks or chickens or whatever that I remember those.New Speaker: But there were sewers in your family before you.
RD: Yeah.
New Speaker: And what about, have you taught any younger members of your family too?
RD: So, well, my daughter has quilted, I've, you know, she's got three kids now,
so it's a little hard, but she has quilted. And then, um, I'm trying to think, uh, maybe a year or so ago, a year ago, my son was here and he decided he wanted to quilt, but he wanted it NOW, so I'm like, you can't get it just now. And he wanted it specifically navy blue. So we went and got a couple of sheets and navy blue sheets and put batting on and I put it on the long arm and then he quilted it because he wanted scallops that looked like water. So I let him do that. And then when he was through with that, I put the binding on it and he started on end sewing the binding down, I started on the other end so we could get it done so he can take it home.AM: And you, you told me before the interview that you've taught some just
informally with the guild. Do you enjoy doing it?RD: I've always enjoyed teaching. Even when I was working, the type of work that
I did. I've always enjoyed teaching.AM: So, um, how does your family, they've received quilts, your family members
received quilts. Sounds like they've received a lot of quilts, too, um, how did they feel about your quilt making? I mean, how does it affect their life? Especially if, you know, your husband is around it on a day to day basis?RD: Well, it's my hobby I guess, and my therapy. So he's happy if I'm happy and
you know, "if Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy". And, um, when I babysit and stuff with the grandkids, the girls especially are always wanting to sew and wanting to help. "What can I do? Can I iron, can I cut?" You know, so they're just kind of part of all of it. And as far as my sisters go, I've got a couple of them that have kind of picked up quilting now seeing me do it. But you know, they're always excited to get a quilt in the mail.AM: So, um, what was I gonna say about that? Do you feel like you, have you ever
used quilting to get through a difficult time in your life?AM: S I enjoy handwork and so I've always got some type of a project that I can
do. And like now this friend of ours that's probably taking his last breath as I speak, I've had handwork sitting over there helping out, that type of a thing. Um, you know, so whenever anybody's sick, I guess it probably been the most difficult type things that I've come across. I've usually got some kind of hand work to do that keeps me busy in my mind. Occupied.AM: What about the social part of quilting because you've moved and you were a
part of the guild in one place and, and what is that provided? Tell us some about the different quilting groups you've belonged to in your life and what that's meant to you.AM: Friends, great friends and we all have a common interest and it's, you know,
they're, they're like family. They're like sisters, you know, I mean, you can go to any one of them for help or, you know, we've got our small little groups that we have. Um, you know, we'll do dinners, you know, together and if somebody needs help with something, you're there to help them or help them through a difficult time, something like that. But just the things you can learn belonging to, a guilt, the information you can pick up. Um, some of it's just invaluable. I mean, you just, it's a lot cheaper than taking a class somewhere. You can just pick up a lot of information. But it's, um, I guess they're important to me in the sense that it's like, it's really gotta be something going on that I'm going to miss guilt, you know what I mean?AM: There's really got to be something going on. I'm going to be at guilt. It's,
and I have kind of trouble sometimes when you people, it's just, it doesn't seem like it's important to them. And I know I've always expected too much out of people. I've been told that numerous times, but I just enjoy it and I figure everybody else should too. So, and you've shown your work at um, like local quilt shows or fairs. Um, how do you feel about that? Um, when I was in California it was a lot bigger deal than it is here. Here the fair is like you're really going to go to the fair. Are you sure you want to go to the fair? Do you know where you're going to park at the fair? But in California we had a county fair and then we had our little local, I don't know, the big county and the little county fair, I guess you could call them, but they were big deals, you know.AM: And um, and you always went to the fare to go to the Er, to the building.
The had all the arts and the crafts and stuff to look at the quilts. And I can remember in demoine when we were little going to the state fair in De Moines and always going to look at the quilts. In fact, this past summer I was there during the Iowa state fair and I went to the air just for the food and to look at the quilts and um, it's, you know, just kind of see it just everybody's, I guess the areas are so different and what, what they're into and what they're not into, you know. But I'd like to see more of us participate in our little local Piedmont Fair. Just nothing else for more competition amongst ourselves. So it's fun. Have you ever had been tempted to or been asked to sell any of your quilts?AM: Oh yeah. No, I don't sell anything. I'll give them a way before all some,
cause I don't, you just can't really put a price on them. And if, you know, if somebody says, you know, I want to buy that quilt and you say, okay, give me $350 and they look at you like, well I can order one through Penney's catalog for 39 95 and you want how much, you know, they just don't realize the amount of money that you put into them, including your time, you know? And if you have to send them out to be quilted, here's another expense that, I mean, the general public just doesn't realize that at all. You know? I mean, I had a lady at Joanne's the other day, we don't know if I'd make her jacket like this. And I said, no, I don't think so. You know. Can you make me one of those? No, you, so, um, all the time.AM: What, are there any quilters way, either well known or it may be in the,
even in this room who have inspired you or just artists in general or other quilt makers who've inspired youAM: work or, um, that you really admire their work? And sometimes I kind of
think it's like quilted the month, you know, who's doing what, what class I've been to or, um, when I've gone to the mountain quilt fast, I really enjoyed taking classes from Charlotte and Gaudy and she was, she was just a hoot. And she, and Debbie Caffrey where a lot of, you know, a lot of fun. And so I, you know, made a few of their quilts, but you know, some patterns that they were selling at those and made a few of their quilts. And the latest thing around here is the Bonnie hunter quilt. So everybody's doing this scrappy Bonnie hunter, you know, mystery quilts that she does. So and then, um, we took a class from Bonnie, I think it was in October, and it was called Oklahoma backroads was the name of the quilt pattern. And so I have a sister in Oklahoma, so I figured, well there you go Jane, here's your quilt. So made Oklahoma back roads for Jane and sent it to her of it. SoAM: what do you think like for this quilt, for it, for instance, do you think
that if someone didn't know you and came in and looked at that quilt, they would know something about you and what you're like and what your style is like by looking at it that way?AM: Well, what do you think ladies as as one of mine, but the handwork and that
type of thing on it. Yeah. You don't do a lot. Yeah. Lighter ones. What's a typical Renee quilt, then what would be the design? I like fatigues. That's probably my main, Goto type fabric is a boutique. And I like the brighter colors more so than the darker, darker colors. I'm more of the brighter colors. SoAM: do you typically take on a large, you know, a bed size, this quilt
AM: or yeah, bed size or throws? Yeah, I'm not into a lot of the wall hangings
or the, you know, that type of creative quilting.AM: So would you call your, um, describe yourself as a traditional quilter? Um,
AM: more traditional, traditional versus modern are are already, yeah, more of a
traditional quilt.AM: And um, where is your, where is your work going in any specific direction
right now? I mean, what is, what's, what project are you working on right now?AM: Um, I'm working on the Vani hunter mystery quilt that she did this past,
started in November and I, I didn't keep up with it. And so now I'm trying to get that done, but I'm also making American girl clothes doll clothes. And so, you know, you got to kind of pace yourself here and do what you need to do. SoAM: I have to divide your data, divide my time amongst your demands. Yes, yes.
Speaker 3: Um, let's see.
AM: Do you remember the first time this sort of going back to your own personal
quilt history, you don't have a lot of, or any quilt makers that you can remember in your family, you remember the comforter and the feathers because I imagine that was a rule and memorable thing, but what do you remember the first time the object, a quilt as an object sort of made an impression on you? Was it the time that you saw that first quilt in a shop? Yeah,AM: yeah, that was probably, and like I said, I've, I've always been, you know,
the artsy craftsy making different things and stuff, but I've always been, even when my days when I was painting, you know, I'd look at something and say, well, I can go home, paint that or, you know, pick up something and look at it. And so, you know, that's kind of just the way I, I run, you know. And even when I used to sew garments, I wouldn't look at the pattern unless I got stuck, you know, and then I'd pull out the pattern to figure out which way to go next. But for the most part I just kind of wing it, start putting it together.Speaker 3: So, um, uh, what
AM: did the long arm, the addition of the long arm machine, did that change your
work at allAM: in the type of quilts I make? No, but the ability to quilt my own, and again
I wish I was better at it than I am, but again it's just another skill that you have to acquire and it takes a lot of time and a lot of practice and, and I'm trying to deviate more and you know, looking at more books and drawing more little do dyes and doodling in that type of thing to kind of pick up some of those other designs that you can do. That was my next question cause you mentioned painting and I wondered if you do like drawing. Do you draw quilt before or does it just in your head or that's just basically in my head as I go what I see as I go.Speaker 3: Mm. That type of thing
AM: and whatever colors I like, you know, that's one thing I do like the, the
part of picking out the fabric and the color combinations and coordinating that type of thing. I enjoy that. How many hours would you say you spend in your studio on an average day?Speaker 3: Yeah.
AM: Ooh, depending on the day. Um, I'd like to say maybe a couple hours a day,
you know, kind of just depends on what's going on. If I can get four hours in an evening or a couple hours in the morning amongst my other chores that I have to do this, I can't, I don't have a housekeeper anymore since I'm not working, I got to do my own cleaning. So we've got to balance all of that. Yep.AM: So what do you think makes a good quilt? I mean, what makes a great quilt?
Do you feel like there's a formula or do you just know it when you see it? I more, I know it when I see it. I mean I can go to a quilt show and say that one got the blue ribbon. What were they thinking with that? You know what I mean? And it's just, it's like any kind of art. I think it's just, it's in the eye of the beholder. And what a good quilt to me is probably not to you. And so I guess I'm going more on the color, the design, just what appeals to me. Um, some of them I'll look at and say, oh that one was hand quilted. They did a great job or well that computer quilted that one. You know what I mean?AM: You can tell. And so I'm going to give somebody more credit for even doing
their own quilting on their own machine versus turning the computer on and having the computer do it. But, and then, you know, some of the ones that are like these big murals or face or something. To me that's not a quilt. It's a wall hanging. But you know, it's not a traditional quilt and I'm more the traditional user quilt user. It's, you know, it can be used versus hung on a wall. Now did you say that you collect quilts too? No, I do not. Tell us about what you do collect a featherweights. I have a collection of featherweights and I have five of them. And then I also have a bunch of the little miniature old little singer machines with the clamp on them that, you know, and some other old, old ones that are some of the old singers that are in the cabinets and I travel, things like that.AM: So can you tell a little bit about the feather way and why you like that?
What appeals to you about that particular machine?AM: You can't get much simpler and it always works. And, um, I don't know how I
even got into it. I think it was one of those things that I was intrigued because everybody, you know, had this feather weight and that was, you know, kind of a thing to have, you know. I mean, it was me, if you had a feather way, you had something. And so I don't even know how long ago I got my first one. But, um, I took a class then from a gentleman, he came to our guilt and anybody that had a featherweight could come to the class and he had us take those things apart. We took out every screw, every nut, every bolt, and we put them all back together after we cleaned them an oil drum and grease them and whatever else you need needed. And um, my husband and I like to go antiquing and so he looks for his Latin oil lamps and I look for feather weights and I'm picky about him.AM: I'm not going to pay a lot for him. I mean I just kind of, you know, know
what I'll pay for him. And I found a few for some my friends that have wanted to do most of the ones that I have used them all. Um, I have one that I pretty much is my work horse wine. If I have to go anywhere, take it, that's the one I take. But the other ones, they all work. They've all been serviced and worked and I've got dates and how old they are and that type of thing. Um,AM: so you mentioned with your mid I'd submit arm machine, sit down machine. Do
you just like stand up? Oh, it is. Okay. So do you do fancy stitches on that or are you sort of carry over the featherweight kind of aesthetic to the, or sort of limited limit yourself to sort of basic stitches or do you do all the fancy? Yeah,AM: no, I'm not the fancy one. I try to get fancy, but I'm not fancy, you know,
if I figured the day I can tackle feathers, I've made, made a lot of progress. But you know, I just, again, I just takes practice and time and you know, so, but no, I mean I just basically, you know, some meandering and some smaller little design type of things and leaves and flowers and that type of thing.AM: Now what's your strategy on stash? Do you, are you the kind of person that
says, I'm in use up everything before I buy new or you, uh, what's, what's your strategy?AM: Um, I have a lot of stash and I keep saying, no, I'm not going to buy
anymore. I got to use up what I've got. So some of these bunny hunter projects where they're all scrappy has been a great, um, for helping me get through some of my stash. But yeah, I have quite a bit of stash. I usually say if you need, you need to go shop and come over here first.AM: As much as, I hate to admit that's a nice service, but show me a hobby that
uh, isn't expensive. Absolutely. I was going to say, um, is your hobby more expensive than the lamp collecting? His hobby is the most expensive. Well,AM: right now that can be a toss up because he's not collecting apps. He's
building of 66 Mustang fastback. So his parts are costing a lot more than I fabric.AM: Just get that out there. Um, so we talked about the quote that you brought
and your life and quilt making and sort of your aesthetics, you know, you're, what appeals to you visually. Um, let's talk a little bit about quilt making in just how it fits into our culture now, our everyday living. Um, do you find that, um, people who don't know, you are surprised that you're a quilter or that people, anyone is still quilting? I mean, do you ever, what's, what are people's reaction to yourAM: a quilt making? Well, I think if it fits family, you know, knowing that I
come from a family of sower, so I don't know that that's, you know, unusual and like with my sisters and stuff, I don't, you know, they're not surprised or, you know, buy it because they've just, you know, we've always had fabric and threatened needles and that type of a thing, but people that don't know me, they don't know a lot about anything about me, let alone. But I think as far as probably the quilting concept, a, you know, a lot of people think, oh, they did that in the old days. You mean your quilting, you're making quilts now. You know what I mean? That type of a thing. I think that's more of a shock to people then. I'm a quilter. Right. You know, that you would be making a quilt in this day and age.Speaker 3: MMM.
AM: There's a couple of questions that we use really asked about just how your
quilts, uh, say something about your community. Do you think the quilts that you make have changed because you moved from California? Did you move directly here from California? Have, have your quilts changed at all because you've changed places?Speaker 3: Okay.
AM: I think just the times have changed. I don't know that the type of cult, I
mean because it was warm out there, so we weren't making flannel quilts out. They're like, we're not making flannel quilts here. You know, like my sister's in the Midwest make flannel quilt. Um, so I think it's just what happens to be more current with the new rulers are that are out there, the new Duda for this or is it dude off or that, I think it's just more of the times how they've changed. I don't know that the actual quilts orSpeaker 3: [inaudible]
AM: any different. And you wouldn't say that your quilts aren't representative
or connect to the community and imagery are, you know, inspired by anything that'sSpeaker 3: no. Um,
AM: is it important to you that your quilts outlive you and sort of represent
you in some way in the lives of the people that you give them two or who ended up with them?AM: Well, my son's going to say I don't have room to store any of them, so I
don't want, and my daughter's probably gonna wonder what she's going to have to do with all these quilts. So I, there's going to be a lot of them. Somebody is going to have to figure out what to do with. Do you put labels on your quilts? Probably not so much busted. I know, I know it,AM: but do you, so is it important to you that a great, great grandchild knows
that you made it?AM: I imagine one of these days it will be, obviously now it hasn't been, you
know, um, because I'm usually making them, you know, for the grandkids or something like that and you know, I want them to use them. So I mean, if they're gonna, you know, I don't necessarily want the dog to use them, you know, but if the dog gets on him, it's not you. The world isn't going to come to an end, you know, who knows what it'll even be available or you know what it'll be around after they're washed so many times, you know, all those little baby blankets that are just, you know, threads. So what do you think, um, is the most significant change or improvement or thing that you've seen happening in the quilt world since you've become a quilt quilter? Either technically or culturally or whatever. The laser cut fabrics, pieces, the laser cut pieces.AM: I am sure at some point in time that's going to become even more popular.
But having made a couple with laser cut, you know, I mean they are precise and they don't ravel and no, and then I just think all the new apps and stuff that are on the phones, you know, you don't have to think up, you know, compute how much binding you need or you know, how much fabric you need. I mean, all you gotta do is just punch the numbers in on your phone and you get the answer, you know. So, um, I think that's probably going to be some of the, you know, all this new stuff, these new apps and stuff. But I mean, I, if I've got one ruler, I've got 3,800 rulers, my granddaughter today, we were talking about hexagons. And so guess what grabbed me. You got an extra gone ruler still in the package, but I got a hexagon or you know. Um, so you like the tool. I got a lot of new stuff without a lot of out. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff. Um, is there anything happening in the quilt world that can be concerns you, like a trend that concerns you or a, um, something you think is, um, that you'd like to see change?AM: Um, I don't know that I'm real fond to some of the colors of fabrics and the
patterns that are coming out lately. It just hasn't been, you know, they're getting there though. More modern type of patterns and that type of thing that don't really interest me. But you know, again, I'm that traditional quilter and so I guess I'm not down that modern line. Just, you know, I've never been the one with the first fancy hairdo or the first fancy pair of shoes or I'm just, I'll wait until it, you know. Right. So, yeah. Um, is there anything that I haven't asked you that, um, is something that stands out in your life as a quilter or your experiences or a funny moment or something that was like an Aha moment or, I don't know, bad aha moments, but again, you got to keep talking about these grandkids and my youngest granddaughter was wanting to make a quilt so she cut out or pieces of fabric and she was so enough and she sewed her finger with the machine.AM: Yes. With the bitchy and all my gosh, I mean drama, it was drama. But um,
when I got turn the little crank and of course, or you know, the needle comes, she went running mom and her mom listen even hall. So I had to catch her and we have to crush her on it and washed her hands good. And put a bandaid on it. Set her on my lap for a while and she was okay and told her now she was a true clear in her finger that she could continue to sow because everybody does it at least once. So was that the feather weight? One of the better ways. Oh, so one of my other ones, but she wanted to sew so she was, she was making her quilt for her doll, sort of red badge occur but drama. Oh my gosh, that's so sweet. Anything else? Not that I can think of is anybody else have any questions?