00:00:00Helen Kamphuis (HK): This is Helen Kamphuis. Todays date is the 3rd of
November. 12:09 pm. Im conducting an interview with Helen Ridgway. Hello, for
the quilters S.O.S., Save Our Stories at Project of the Alliance for American
Quilters and am I allowed to call you by your first name, Helen?
Helen Ridgway (HR): Please.
HK: Helen and I are at the International Quilt Festival in Houston, Texas. Helen
will tell you about the quilt you bought today. Could you please explain?
HR: Well, what I want to talk about because my quilt that is in the book, The
Lone Star Legacy , is a group quilt and this reminds me of that quilt also. I
00:01:00want to talk about our bee and how our group works together. This quilt is
called Fairy Frenzy and it started as a quilt with five balloons and a big
bow at the bottom. And since youre looking at it, you can tell it looks
nothing like that with a big bow at the bottom.
HK: No, No. [laughing.] What part is the balloons? [more laughter.]
HR: Well we were all charged to make a balloon and there are 8 of us in the
group. We came up with the idea just by drawing out ideas and one of our members
drafted this pattern with these balloons. We thought that would be cute and
weve always made a quilt together. And weve been together about ten years.
We go on a retreat every year for four days in a B&B,. and we kind of come up
with ideas to start our quilt together. So we all went home from this meeting
00:02:00and we were all supposed to make something that looked like a balloon. So we
were just doing little ideas. I remember well that I only did a quarter of mine
because I thought, Gosh, that got pretty big, and it was going to be
round. I was going to have four of those. They call me the anal person in our
group, because I like good points and everything to work together. Some of them
are way more artsy than I am. I consider myself a traditional quilter. I did
that one with all those pieces at the top. Im exhausted by the time I get
around to this, but I brought mine and a couple of people made little ones that
you see down here. They really do look like small balloons. Then I think the
rest of these were made later. When we brought them together we thought, I
00:03:00think those look like flowers, not like balloons. Why dont we make a
garden? So we scrapped the bow, we scrapped the balloons, and we decided to
make a garden. We still didnt have fairies in it at all but we all started
using--I hate to tell you--ugly fabrics that we had in our stash and we put all
these fabrics that we thought were ugly fabrics together and made all of these
flowers. They are all paper pieced and then appliqud onto the background. We
had a hard time coming up with the background and somebody had this green batik
in their stash so they gave it to us so we did that and then we started putting
stems on the flowers, we started fraying some of them, we thought that was cute.
We turned one of them upside over at the leaves, and then we decided what were
we going to do with the bottom of this thing. Then somebody said, If its a
00:04:00garden, we probably need some grass. So we took all of those greens and we
put fusible on the back of them and then we kind of swirled them and put all of
that green there. We still didnt have a way to stop it. So we must have
worked on ending this quilt at the bottom for three months. We did different
things, we came up with different fabrics, we came up with different ideas, and
then you see this one right here is something that I had and it was definitely
old fabric. We cut out pieces of it and put it down there. Then we decided to
scallop the bottom and then we decided to put all of this in there.
HK: What made you choose the ladybugs?
HR: [laughing.] Then somebody said, I think I see the fairies poking out. I
think that would be a good idea. So she handpainted all of these fairy faces.
00:05:00Then we made the wings and we put those behind the grass. And then she put this
one flying off the edge over there. And then somebody said, Well I have these
ladybugs and we put some of those on there. Then somebody said, I think we
should do these mirrors, and we put those on there. It was just a conglomeration
that took us about 18 months to make.
HK: Why do you choose to work together?
HR: Because we love each other. Weve been together all this time. We meet
once a month and then we go on this retreat once a year. Weve just had a
bond, you know? There were eight of us originally, and then one of our members
died. And then we got another one, somebody in her place. And then weve had
two other members move away. And weve gotten new people over the years. But
we all seem to get along, we all have different talents, strengths. We decided
00:06:00to put rickrack on. We thought that was cute. And thats how we have done
quilts together over the years.
HK: And you always choose to do projects together or do you also make your own?
HR: We definitely all make our own quilts. And we bring them to our meetings for
people to help us and to critique and say ,You know, you might want to do
this, or Thats how to do this.
HK: You just mentioned that youre a traditional quilter, this is a little bit
more arty. How is that for you to be working in two kind of different areas?
HR: Well, its really fun and exciting. They have stretched me to be more
artsy. I dont think that I have any talent, I can just make seams correctly.
I never sewed on a sewing machine in my life until quilting. I was a hand
00:07:00quilter, I mean a hand sewer. I made all of my daughters clothes by hand, I did
the rolling and whipping and all that French sewing by hand I also did counted
cross stitch. I did needlepoint, Im a knitter. I did all of that. But when
we retired and moved to the Texas old country, I told my husband that I always
wanted to quilt. I saw a little thing in the newspaper about quilting and I went
and these women just took me under their arms and taught me everything.
HK: What made you go for that transition? I mean this is a lot more artsy, you
were making a bit more traditional things but that also can be used-childrens
clothes, and now youre doing very art kind of projects.
HR: Well but Im still doing traditional on my own. However, I did do one
00:08:00small art quilt that got accepted into Houston. It blew me away.
HK: Wow.
HR: Im thinking how in the world did this happen? I just did it and then it
happened. And so, that happens. But if I were choosing something to make, I
would go for either machine embroidery or traditional.
HK: How did you enter those quilts? Was it your idea to enter the quilts or was
it a group decision? How did you decide?
HR: Our group decides whether or not to enter it. At the end of making a quilt,
we enter it in our quilt show, and then we draw names and then one person wins
it. If you won one, you cant win another one until everyone has won one and
were back at the beginning again. Weve all won one, so we can start over.
HK: Congratulations.
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HR: And I have Hot Flashes the one thats in Lone Star Legacy. HK: Okay,
okay. So that one is yours?
HR: And this one another friend owns.
HK: Why are you interested in quiltmaking? What made you choose quiltmaking?
HR: My grandmother was a quilter. I really loved being with her, she was a
stabilizing agent in my life. When I was in the 8th grade, I was having some
difficulty at home and so she got me to help her make a quilt so I
cross-stitched a quilt. And then I quilted the whole thing with the punch and
poke method, and I still have it. But of course I never ever quilted again, but
I did make little cross-stitch things for my children. Then I just thought,
Im tired and my mother had died and that was what I had wanted to do.
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HK: And you did. [laughing.]
HR: Yes I did. These women just surrounded me, carried me along.
HK: You say that you are self-taught, and if I listen to you, it seems that you
are also developing your techniques. How do you learn?
HR: Well, I go to a lot of classes. Yes, Im self-taught in that it came from
within me, but Ive taken classes and classes and classes all over. I take
classes here in Houston, ve been coming here for about 15 years. I take
classes in California, I take classes in Texas. Any excuse to travel, I take it.
HK: What makes a great quilt according to you? [laughing.]
HR: The precision of the piecing and the way it is pieced. Even in this artsy
quilt, if these points were lopped off, that would not be a great quilt in my
eyes. It needs to be precise, it needs to hang straight. It needs to not weigh a
00:11:00whole lot. But it needs to speak to me also; the colors, the form, the way that
its put together--they give a message.
HK: And this is not a traditional quilt? The very bright colors in your other
quilts, your own projects, whats your inclination to what kind of fabrics you
use and colors?
HR: They all laugh because I love black and black and white. But I also like
brights and batiks. So I do lot that combines all of that. And lime green is my
favorite color.
HK: Lots and lots of green in here. [laughing.] Why is quilt making important
for you now? Because you chose to active as a quilter?
HR: Right. My husband has been really ill since we moved to the country and was
00:12:00in a wheel chair for one year with many surgeries. Being able to quilt has been
like my salvation. We built our home on a ranch and I didnt sew or quilt at
that point when we moved there. I joined the Guild in our town and started
sewing on the dining room table - I didnt even own a sewing machine. I
borrowed my daughters sewing machine and finally I bought a sewing machine
and my husband, after we had been there for a year wanted to add on a studio for
me. I was just horrified because I thought if I do that, then I have to do it.
It will become a job for me. Ill have to do this. He talked me into it and we
added on a studio off of our bedroom, and its just been wonderful. Its
just saved my life. The year that he was so sick, I made this silly quilt and I
named it She almost came undone and used these crazy women who looked like
00:13:00their head was exploding. Quilting calms me and makes me happy and just puts a
smile on my face. And my husband loves that.
HK: I can imagine. Its very important to have your own time when somebody is
ill. If you tell somebody to become a quilt maker, what would be your emphasis?
What would you tell them to go and quilt?
HR: I would tell them that first of all to submerge themselves in the history of
quilting and to see where it came from and how important it was not only in
womens lives but in mens also. And to see what stories there are out
there, and then to think about what their story is and how they want to be
00:14:00remembered for their quilts.
HK: Now how would you like to be remembered for your quilts?
HR: I think I would like to be remembered as someone who was generous and kind
and wanted to share, not only my quilts but my love of quilting and my
excitement for it. It just turns me on every day. I get so excited I can hardly
stand it.
HK: How many hours do you spend quilting?
HR: The only problem with that is that I also travel a lot, 11 grandchildren, so
I might go and visit my grandkids because none of them live where we are and I
dont want them to forget me. So of course I make them all quilts too. I
cant find time to stay in my room, but when Im at home, Im out there 4,
5, 8, 10 hours a day just depends on the day. I spend a lot of time out there.
And right now Im out there making a silk table runner thats embroidered,
we have an embroidering machine, for our daughter-in-law for Christmas. Im
00:15:00just hoping that Im going to get it finished. Ive done five blocks and I
have to do 44. Cant believe that this is the first of November, Ive got to
hurry. [laughing.]
HK: You do. Have you picked other people in your family to quilt?
HR: Both of our oldest granddaughters have made quilts. One, the oldest one just
got married and she made a quilt for her fianc for Christmas last year and
when she finished she said, Never again. Now the second one is making a
quilt for her fianc and she loves it. I think Ive infected the bug in her,
and Im really excited. I did make that granddaughter a quilt for her wedding
and I made our daughter one also. I had everyone sign squares at the wedding.
That was the back of the quilt. I did the top of my daughters called Steps
to the Altar, it was very traditional. And then the top of this
granddaughters was all machine embroidered appliqu. So it looked very
00:16:00traditional also, even though its done with the new methods.
HK: You mentioned that you were in a quilt bee together, do you also go together
to the quilt festivals?
HR: Yes, there are three of us here together this time. Everybody, no four of us
here together.
HK: Which people have influenced you, which artists?
HR: I have certainly been influenced by Carol Doak, I love paper piecing. In
fact, Ive taught paper piecing. I really enjoy that a whole lot. Ive been
influenced by Alex Anderson; Ive taken classes from her. Ive been
influenced by some art quilters, too. Esterita Austin is my absolute favorite
and she is so different from me. And I just love her techniques and the
00:17:00painting, which I never thought I was a painter at all, and Ive learned to
paint on fabric. Its amazing. I think those would be my top three.
HK: Will you be incorporating those techniques maybe in your next quilt?
HR: Maybe so. In fact, Im doing one right now for my husband thats totally
not traditional. Its an outhouse; he wanted me to make him an outhouse.
HK: Im sorry I dont know what an outhouse is.
HR: An outhouse is a place you go to the bathroom, thats a hole in the ground
and it has a little wooden structure over it.
HK: Okay, I understand now. I thought it was a technique [laughing.]
HR: I have glued this whole outhouse, I have cut out strips of fabric and made
them look like boards with different shadings and I have glued the whole thing
down. Now Im getting ready to quilt it down. Okay, so its totally out of
my box because I didnt like gluing when I was in kindergarten, and Im not
sure I like it now because it gets on my hands and I dont like that. But I
00:18:00thought this would be a fun technique to try. Im always up for trying
something new.
HK: Will you be showing other people this outhouse?
HR: Oh yes.
HK: Do you have your own website?
HR: No.
HK: How do you share your ideas?
HR: With our bee and guild. We have about 250 members in our guild in town. And
we have a great show and tell.
HK: What are the biggest challenges confronting quilt makers today?
HR: I think we are being taken seriously now, but I think it wasnt being
taken seriously. I think it was like the little old lady sitting around quilting
and people didnt really understand what a quilt was and how expensive it was
00:19:00to buy the fabric, how time consuming it is to make the quilt to dream up the
idea, how it is an art. I think Kerry has done an amazing job letting the whole
world know that quilting is important. I think the Japanese women have done an
amazing job. I think there were some Australian quilters that are way top notch,
seriously. I think that all of these people gathering together have made us be
recognized in our field as artists.
HK: Its a sharing thing, is that what quilting is?
HR: Yes.
HK: How do you balance your time? You already described something that you spend
a lot of time in your studio but you have other important things.
HR: I do. I burned many a dinner because I would forget. I asked my husband for
a timer for Christmas last year, an old fashioned timer. Thats how Im
00:20:00balancing is with a timer. [laughing.]
HK: I can image. What are your plans in the future with this quilt?
HR: Well this quilt belongs to Linda so it hangs in her home. My quilt thats
in the booth belongs to me and it hangs at my house.
HK: It hangs?
HR: Thats the problem with my house because I have no walls. I mean its a
real open plan and everything so its in my living room. But it looks great
there too, its wonderful. But we did learn to make them not quite so big so
they would hang on peoples walls, because mine is bigger than this even and
its hard to hang something that size. But my riends wanted me to be sure to
tell you that I have lots of quilt boxes with all of my quilts stacked in them
00:21:00because I just keep making them and I do give away a lot but I have a lot that I
want to keep and so I just have them folded up in my little quilt boxes.
HK: Do you have quilts for your bed for example?
HR: I have quilts for my bed for every season. I made a huge Christmas quilt. We
have a king sized bed and I love that. I have one that has stars on it. I also
have another one thats red and white thats not Christmas.
HK: What do you use for material to make your quilts?
HR: Theyre all cotton. Im a traditionalist.
HK: What do you think makes a great quilter?
HR: I think we talked about that.
HK: Did we? Then well skip that. Do you use a design wall?
HR: Yes, I do. In fact, I have two design walls in my studio. We used a design
00:22:00wall to make this quilt. You cannot do something like this without a design wall.
HK: How do you, for example, when you are laying it out together, how do you go
home and do your own thing? How do you manage to keep the ideas?
HR: We take pictures when its on the design wall, then that helps you also
see if something looks right. When you look through a photograph or a digital
image, you can really see where something is out of place or you want something
a little bit different. And I do that a lot, at home also. Ill have stuff up
and Ill think it looks good, and then Ill take a picture and go, Oh,
thats not right.
HK: Youre incorporating different technologies to improve your quilting?
HR: Yes
HK: What other things do you use to get it across, to experiment?
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HR: We do not try to make something and make sure it ends up in the quilt. You
can make things and it wont be in that quilt, it could be somewhere else. We
also made a quilt together of a woman, we call it Woman interrupted. It
was a Van Gogh painting. We couldnt decided which one to paint because we
brought together all of these different groups of painters and we voted on which
one we were going to do. Then we chopped her up into eight pieces but not eight
squares, and then we each went away and we could not talk to each other. We each
made our piece however we wanted to. You could appliqu it, you could piece
it, you could paint it. But you couldnt talk to the people. Then we put it
all back together. It was amazing, a couple of the people who were new to our
bee, were traditional quilters. They panicked and said, This will never
work. I had half a hand and I painted my part, and then the other person with
00:24:00the other half of the hand painted hers. And it looked fine.
HK: How do you handle that in a group? I mean if people want to have more structure--
HR: We just laugh at that and keep on going. [laughing.] You know, we are very
passionate and care about each other.
HK: Is it important that the number of people you have is eight? Would it work
for you if you were becoming 10 members?
HR: It wouldnt work for us because the place we go on our retreat can only
hold eight people.
HK: So its restricted by the retreat?
HR: Yes, and getting more than eight working in a home is hard. We also makes
lots of charity quilts together and do lots of fun things.
HK: What makes a quilt appropriate for a museum or a special collection?
00:25:00
HR: Maybe someone who has won top prizes, and by that I mean the big prizes in
shows. I think one of those quilts would be appropriate for a museum.
HK: You wouldnt consider this quilt that you brought today good enough for a
special museum collection?
HR: Well, good enough? Probably, yes. I think we did an excellent job. I think
our quilting is wonderful, our design is great. I think it makes you smile when
you look at it. But, I really want our art to be recognized and I think the
00:26:00people that are making the quilts that are winning the 5,000 or 10,000 prizes
are incredible. So thats the kind of quilt I think belongs in a museum.
HK: Whats the function of the museum for you as a quilt maker?
HR: To go and to see the top of the top quilts.
HK: When you were invited to the interview, what did you want to bring across
during the interview?
HR: I really wanted to get across the joy and the camaraderie of working in the
group because I really wanted to stress not just the individual quilt maker but
00:27:00how important it is to have a group and to be able to work together.
HK: Besides sharing the ideas, how do you work as a group? How does that
function? Whats important?
HR: Its important that we listen to each other and that we care about each
other beyond the quilting. As I said, we have had one member die and it was very
hard on all of us. We have had people that have been ill, husbands that have
been ill, and we just share so much more than just the quilting. But, its
really important that we share new ideas, new techniques, new quilting gadgets,
so that someone can come in and say, Oh look at what I found, and then we
go running around to get it. One of our members is an amazing appliquer - two of
them are, actually. And some of us really arent handy appliquers at all. So,
00:28:00theyve been teaching us and working with us and doing things like that. Then
somebody will go to a class and they will learn something and teach that
technique to us, not in a formal way but sitting around saying, You want to
learn how to do this? and well say, Yes, and well bring scraps
and learn how to do it or whatever it is.
HK: You said that some people left the group or moved away. How do you find the
right person to join the group?
HR: Its very difficult, because we are very close. When Marilynn died, we had
a really close friend in our guild and we asked her to come the next year. And
then when we had two members move away, we waited a long time before we asked
somebody. And we did, and when she went on retreat with us that year, she said,
Now I know that I am on probation here, and we laughed. But its worked
00:29:00out fine, weve been very fortunate.
HK: I can imagine that its always a little difficult to get a new member.
HR: Right, it is.
HK: You said that you collect and sell quilts.
HR: No, I dont sell, but I do collect. Im sorry.
HK: Thats okay.
HR: I dont sell my quilts but I do collect quilts. But I collect my quilts,
my friends quilts and I love antique quilts. I have several that were my
grandmothers and they are very important to me. I love antique quilts and I love
old tops. I have a whole bedroom thats got antique quilts and antique tops
just all over the room.
HK: That sounds great.
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HK: What is an amusing experience that youve had?
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HR: You know, I tried and tried to think of one but the only amusing experience
I can think of is when we were making Hot flashes, its a Log Cabin
quilt. We were all working together on the retreat; we made the whole thing in
five days that top. We were going to name it Fire cracker or
Fireworks, and we have ceiling fans above the table where we work in this
B&B. And somebody would say, Turn the fan on, and somebody else would say,
Im burning up, turn the air conditioner on, and we go in January so it
was chilly. Somebody kept saying, Oh my gosh, Im have hot flashes. We
decided to name the quilt Hot Flashes because we were all having hot
flashes, so thats what we named it. [laughing.]
00:31:00
HK: Great explanation of the name. Im going to slowly end the interview, is
there something that youd like to documented forever and ever? [laughing.]
HR: No, I cant think of anything except that quiltmaking is so important. The
touching of the fabric, the looking at the threads, the relationships that you
build with other people in your groups, in the world. Ive met women from all
over the world. We met a woman from England here about five years ago and she
ended up coming back and staying with us. You just form relationships through
this art, and it is an art.
HK: So your message is quilting is sharing?
HR: Thats right. The whole thing is relationships.
00:32:00
HK: I think this is a nice end. Id like to thank you Helen for allowing me to
interview you today and for the Quilers SOS, Save Our Stories, and Oral History
Project. Our interview concludes 9:44. Thank you.
HR: Thank you.